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ART GALLERY

Response to Rosu 05/23/2003

I appreciate the fact you acknowledge the right everyone should have to their own opinion, and to have freedom to express that opinion.  I'm sure you know that not everyone gets to express their opinion, such as in China where many parents are naturally very family-oriented (they would love to have large families if they could), but the law tends to "force" them to abort their children, or face severe penalties for having more than one child.  Since I'm a parent, and Chinese, I have a lot of appreciation for these rights, which very few people on this earth actually get to enjoy.
 
I'm curious about what you say regarding children and abortion: "Children can't fully understand the concept of abortion".  First, I agree that not all children do understand the issue.  However, your statement is very insistent and without any support (you didn't give reasons).  You might be surprised to talk with kids ages 6 to 12 who are very conversant on the subject.  If you haven't met such a kid, it doesn't mean there aren't any, it only means you haven't met any yet.  I know some, and I have seen how passionate and knowledgeable they are about this.
 
You honestly questioned "how [children] could possibly have formed independent opinions on the subject" apart from parental influence.  I hate to break this to you, but it is the role of parents and guardians to influence their children.  What parents do with that responsibility will have a lot to do with what their children believe and how they will live their own lives later on.  When you become a parent, it is very likely you will embrace this opinion yourself.
 
It is surprising to me you think kids making art about the truth and horrors of abortion is more disgusting than abortion itself.  Do you understand what abortion is about?  The kids who submitted art for this gallery seem to know very clearly.
—IMM 05/29/2003


 






HARRY POTTER

Response to CMM 05/14/2003

Thanks for your honest appraisal of the Harry Potter presentation.  Please permit me to respond to some things you wrote.  (I apologize for the long delay in my response).
 
You seem to be saying that comments I made about author J. K. Rowling are a judgment on her heart, life and struggles.  My purpose was to answer the question, "Aren't stories like the Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis the same as Harry Potter?".  I do not mean to say Harry Potter is inferior to Narnia because of Rowling's life, nor that Rowling is an inferior person because of her past life.  My intent is to compare the nature of two literary works, reflected in part by their authorship.  My brief description of the two authors is a judgment of neither (today, both are quite famous).  If you have been to college, then you know that many papers are written in which literary works are compared on the basis of authorship; in my experience, it is extremely rare for any analysis to completely avoid mention or study of the author, composer, director or producer.  Otherwise, I do not feel that I judged Rowling as a person.  Had I done so, I believe you might have read something to the effect, "She is a... (adjective) kind of person".  I stated widely known facts—this is not "judging".
 
A theme recited often in your response is judging others.  This in itself is a less-than-trivial subject, since the Bible clearly instructs us to be careful in how we judge.  In public matters, we habitually judge people based on actions and demonstrated character—we all do this, and it is considered a healthy and constructive use of personal judgment.  In private matters, we would do well to learn how to discern in matters such as making lifestyle choices.  Inevitably, this requires each person to judge for herself or himself what is healthy or unhealthy.    It is unreasonable to expect anyone to live totally by "Don't judge!", when in fact, we are all called to be wise in making judgments.  Sometimes, that translates to, "Don't say what you think".  Good discernment knows when to be quiet, and when to speak.  On the other side of the coin, there is this thing called "free speech".  I personally know a very famous free speech advocate (a 1960s "relic"), who would agree with me (regarding Harry Potter, as well).
 
In reference to this freedom, I clearly stated, "People are completely free to choose whether they will engage in reading or watching Harry Potter and the like. Those who chose to read or watch it have exercised their God-given free will."  This does not mean they will go to hell as a result, but there could be very undesirable consequences.  This is clearly stated in the website (see Disclaimer).
 
Parable or no parable, it seems to me that neither Rowling nor her character creation discerns the danger involved in being involved in occultic practices.  The intent of my article is to show that the Bible strongly warns against this, that Rowling and Harry Potter are totally guilty in this point, and that we would be wise to learn a lesson from this.  In light of Rowling's wild success, she does not need to defend herself against me.  I only want to point out what I believe is unhealthy for everyone.  I believe I could summon sufficient evidence (not just from the Bible) to support my position.
 
As Christians, we are committed to know and keep God's ways as best as possible.  God's ways are not about stifling us, but about making it possible for us to have what the Bible calls "abundant life" on this earth, and in God's kingdom, forever.  The only alternative is hell, forever.
 
Occultic practices enslave, forever.
Jesus gives freedom, forever.
—IMM 06/02/2003

Response to SW 11/06/2002

Thanks for your comment on the immpact.net website.  Frankly, it makes me sick to see that picture of Harry Potter, but it's there for a reason -- to inform people of the warning label that God places on this popular cultural icon.  Many people who have read through the enclosed article passed it on to their children (who are now parents) and grandchildren to inform and warn (please read the feedback on this presentation, you'll see it has been useful for many Christian parents, grandparents and school teachers).  If you also find it to be helpful in providing a clear, biblical rationale for banning Harry Potter, please pass it on to those you care about. I'm waiting until after the second HP movie release this month (allegedly, it will be exactly one year from the first movie release in 2001) before changing the front page of the website.  (Note: a close associate of mine also thought I was advertising for HP, but it's quite the opposite; he got the idea after reading through the entire presentation the second time). 
—IMM 11/08/2002


 




THE FISH

Response to TL 08/29/2002

Thank you for your interest and inquiries regarding IMM's website pages on evolution and creation.  As you have raised some thoughtful questions, please allow me hereby to respond.

1) Do you believe that all of humanity descended from Noah's family?
If so, how do you account for the distinct races?
It would take much longer than ~ 4,000 years to adapt to their respective climates.
 

I do believe all races descended from Noah's family.  That family consisted of three sons and their three wives.  The blessings and curses he gave his three sons match very closely to what we observe globally today:  Shem (Jews, Europeans, "Whites", very blessed economically and in so many other ways), Japheth (Asians, Eurasians and original Americans, note "large territory"), Canaan (African, Arabic, note curse of slavery).  This was written long before anyone had any idea of what peoples actually existed in the world and what their global relationship to each other was going to be.  The Bible record is exceptionally accurate on this one.  This is no coincidence.  (The Bible contains dozens and dozens of fulfilled prophecies, which are also no coincidence).

Distinct races from three couples?  It's not too hard to understand in terms of today's racial mixing.  I'm 100% Chinese and my wife is of European descent.  Our kids have a unique look that doesn't generally match either Chinese, English, Italian, Welsh (our mixes) or Central Asian for that matter.  We know many other kids of similar mix.  If they were to "form their own race" by marrying generally among themselves, limiting inclusion from say Blacks or Hispanics (I don't know any Asian mixes with these, but I know they're VERY different looking), we could easily come up with a Eurasian race that would stand out pretty distinctly from all others (my wife can spot non-Central-Asian mixed Eurasian children in a blink).  Indeed, in America we do observe this phenomenon on the physiological level, not on the cultural however (Eurasians, like expatriate Asians, tend to assimmilate quickly into the dominant culture).  This outcome we observe with consistency.

Now let's tackle the harder question: distinct races from those three couples of Noah's descent, early on in human history (regardless of how long you measure human history).  This is something we can't observe, but DNA and heredity is our key to understanding how this did occur.  Based on DNA studies, even evolutionists have generally concurred on an "Eve" figure.  It follows then that she had all the DNA information necessary to produce the diversity now observed in the human race.  This diversity is getting more diverse as time passes.  There is sometimes amazing diversity in children of the same parents, not just in personality, but especially in appearances.  You should see my four kids, they're very diverse.

All we need then is the mechanism or mechanisms by which this diversity actually occurred from Noah onward (or likewise, from Adam and Eve onward).  I would list here language development, environment and natural selection.  Language development according to the Bible took place instantaneously, at Babel.  Numerous stories from widely scattered ethnic groups around the world support not only this event but also the global flood.  But (regardless of how languages developed), people would naturally separate themselves into groups in which they could communicate (this might infer more than one language or dialect).  Geographical proximity of language groups forced people to move apart from each other (still happening today), moving some towards either hotter or colder climates.  In just a few generations, climate change alone is able to produce changes in skin color, to either lighter or darker pigment.

Natural selection then played the role of narrowing the gene pool for a given grouping, hence producing "unique" physical characteristics for that group.  This leads to group characteristics regarding eye color, hair color, ear shape, eye shape, height, etc.  In this process, genetic information is generally lost, e.g. Asians don't have blue eyes, Northern Europeans don't have dark skin.  But all these characteristics had to have been present in the earliest ancestors.  Again, all the information was and is already in the human gene pool to account for all variations and even aberrations we observe in the human family (this is what genetic researchers have been forced to conclude for us).  Noah and those before him had greater genetic diversity than we personally have today, the decrease being due to natural selection.

By the way, if we take evolution theory to task on this same issue, then it must come to pretty much the same conclusion.  There really isn't any other explanation unless you want to get into ancient UFOs or "gaia".

As for acclimation to environmental change, I think I'm a fairly good example of the fact that it takes very little time for human-climate adaptation to occur.  I grew up in Southern California and lived there 28 years, knowing little else but sunshine and warm to hot weather ("lucky guy").  "I nearly died" when I moved to Portland, Oregon and discovered the sun shines here very little from September to April (it has improved since I moved here, either that, or I've just gotten used to it; I used to wear thermal underwear continuously all winter, now I even wear shorts on occasion).  My three daughters baffle me.  When it's raining or snowing, they just don't seem to care if they run outside without any extra clothing on (this was never true of me as a child).  They can take the colder weather for much longer than I can.  For the most part I have adapted, but for them cold weather seems almost to be in their blood.  This makes no sense to me since my wife grew up here and also can hardly stand this cold weather.  I have no doubt that our grandchildren and beyond will have widely varying opinions regarding the weather here.  Does it really take more than a few decades to change ones mind about anything, even the weather?

2) All science is ever refining itself.  No intelligent scholar would claim exhaustive knowledge or impeccable theories; science by definition, changes constantly to adapt to new information.  As we learn more we in retrospect blush at our relative ignorance.  This is the strength and beauty of science.

Demonstrating an exception or flaw in a complex theory such as evolution does not warrant abandonment out of hand.  rather it calls for conscientious, humble modification.

More importantly, demonstrating the imperfections of evolutionary theory all day long does nothing to support the biblical story of creation as contained in the book of Genesis (Even if a design theory was established.)  "Disproving" does nothing to "prove" the other - there is no either/ or imperative - no dichotomy.  Even conceding that evolutionary theory is bunk does nothing to establish your "alternative."

I appreciate your call for "conscientious, humble modification" when errors are found in our thinking.  This is certainly part of the lifestyle that I was called to live, namely the Christian life, or, a life of following after Jesus Christ.  In my own experience through many difficulties, I have been brought to a place where I am now freely willing to live and think this way.  I simply wish I could see this trait more in evolutionary scientists.  In my experience, dating from the 1980s when I was in college (Harvey Mudd, by the way), professors and researchers seem to be very sure of themselves and confident even of things which are not the domain of their specialization or study, namely evolution theory.  It was during this time of personal confusion that I came to embrace what the Bible says about origins.  I came to college believing somewhat the billions-of-years process.  I left college seeking for evidence to support creation.  I have found much since then (through others' research).

I agree that science is ever refining itself, that is, its methodologies and means.  However, scientists tend to work within a given paradigm, usually one they inherited from a teacher or mentor.  That means that if they were to consistently encounter some empirical data which doesn't fit their paradigm (and they do), they inevitably question the data, not the paradigm.  The paradigm tends to be "untouchable", a sacred cow.  One reason for this is that anyone who would dare think outside the box won't get funding.  As a student, you might try this as an experiment.  Pose yourself as a creationist | scientist trying to get a grant or fellowship for a research idea; see what happens.  Is the academic environment a free-thinking and open-minded one?  I think not.

On the other hand, I admit that in my zeal to publish this presentation by February 12, "Darwin Day", I did not give adequate coverage to the "alternative", creation by God.  I was conscious of this lack, but as such, I was not really prepared to deliver this.  It's not that there aren't good presentations on this (there definitely are), it's that I wanted to focus on Darwin as it was "his day" coming up.  I expect to address this more in the future, and some of whatever I produce is sure to make it onto the Web (I've shifted my focus slightly, so the Web is somewhat on hold for me right now).  Should that happen, I will make every effort to keep you in mind and let you know about it.  Some of the websites I link to make a good presentation of this point.  A good starting point is Answers in Genesis (www.answersingenesis.org).

3) Please thoughtfully consider what you believe and what you know; learn to distinguish the two.

You and I are in the same position on this one.  Both of us have limited data to work with, and neither of us can observe nor prove the process, especially on or to the macro level, such as what we claim.  We are both stuck with "faith" as our primary resource for upholding what we believe.  Neither of us really "know" in observable fact what we "believe".  Even prominent evolutionists have admitted this (and all leading creationists as well).  We are very naive to say that we know something unless we absolutely cannot disprove it (Karl Popper).  The problem I see in evolution is that the mix of funding, public policy and massive media exposure make it difficult if not impossible for people to admit that scientific clues they've discovered either fit both schools of belief, or they only consistently fit the creation model.  Hence, so much science has become fantasy, especially in cosmology (the part having to do with origins) and related higher math.

Take a look at people in our society and you find that very few know what they believe to begin with, and even fewer know why they believe what they believe.  That would explain to me why kids who grew up in church would go over to evolution (this happens), and kids and profs with minimal church background in college come over to embrace biblical creation (this happens too).  A thorough examination of known facts makes it more likely that one will make a conscientious choice.  But, oh, is it ever hard to do that with an open mind (it was even hard for me back in the 1980s). How about you?

What we have to distinguish here is between "known facts" and "conclusions".  Likely, evolution was taught to you earlier on as a conclusion supported by known facts (unless you're somehow much older than I am), whereas it is in truth a theory that is contested and contradicted by much of its own evidence.  My own study of "known facts" leads me to conclude that evolution is much too full of fatal inconsistencies, whereas my study of Christian faith (including that of creation) shows there are inconsistent people (including me), but the faith itself, God Himself and the written record are wholly consistent, both with human logic and the empirical data.  The evolution field is also full of inconsistent people and outright frauds, but let's not go there.

I have neither the funding nor the public persuasion nor even the law on my side, I'm fighting against this massive current, so it is very disadvantageous for me (especially financially) to hold my position on creation (please also look at my discussion on abortion, a similar issue that is a direct result of evolutionistic philosophy).  Something greater than funding or public acceptance must be motivating me, or else I am a very highly developed fool.   Wouldn't you agree?
—IMM 08/30/2002




 

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